He marks where Karang Beranyut is, the large manta ray with an island on its back that rises from the sea to help shipwrecked sailors - it saved a friend and his family once. These stories are dropped in, clearly true, verifiable, again and again told next time I should speak to this friend or that friend or the oldest man in the village about this. He tells me about Gajah Mina, the sea elephant. He draws the main conservation sites - turtle hatcheries, underwater locations of reefballs and crayfish breeding sites, the locations of islands. I want him to draw the paths he takes by his boat to go fish, but he’s dismissive, another evasion - because it is pointless or because it is private? I get the feeling it’s closer to pointless.